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Aug 30, 2013

I Interview Playwrights Part 603: Jerry Lieblich


Jerry Lieblich

Hometown: East Setauket, New York

Current Town:  Brooklyn, New York

Q:  Tell me about Eudaemonia.

A:  As somebody put it in rehearsal the other day, Eudaemonia is “Faust for hipsters.”

The play focuses on three people reaching the end of the first third of their lives, the end of the period of selfish, self-involved self-development that characterizes your mid-twenties. These people are not happy with themselves – they don't want to be who they are, but don't know exactly who (or what) they want to be.

So they each summon into their lives magical, demonic forces to bring about this desired (if misdirected) change. The play tracks how this desire for change, this desire to create a new self, in effect destroys a previous self – how making a new “I” by necessity destroys the old “I.”

But it's also funny, and bizarre, and there's a demon, and a giant egg, and music, and dancing, and Marshall Pailet has done an unbelievable job putting this nearly-impossible play on its feet.

It's going up as part of an event I created with Kevin Armento and Jaclyn Backhaus called (not just) 3 New Plays. We're producing our three plays in rep, sharing a budget, space, set, and production team. We figure that joining forces, we're more capable than any one of us alone.

Their plays, KILLERS and SHOOT THE FREAK, are gorgeous – I'm humbled to be sharing a stage with them.

We've also invited over 60 other artists to use our space for free before and after the shows. So every night there's going to be pay-what-you-can performances – we've got dancers, comedians, filmmakers, photographers, musicians, all sorts. Plus, during the day, artists and companies will get to use the theater as free rehearsal space. We've turned the Paradise Factory into a little pop-up arts ecosystem, and we think that's pretty cool.

Q:  What else are you working on now?

A:  I'm working on a horror play about a junkyard that eats people. I'm also trying to adapt a play my grandma wrote in the 80's – she passed away several years ago, and so the though of co-writing a play with her based on this manuscript I found is pretty alluring.

I'm also making a devised piece about ghost stories with director Stefanie Abel Horowitz and our company, Tiny Little Band. It's still pretty nascent, but in essence it's an examination of belief – what does it mean to believe in ghosts? In true love? In anything? If I hold fundamentally different foundational beliefs from you, how can we ever speak the same language? And in what ways is fear just an extension of belief?

Q:  Tell me, if you will, a story from your childhood that explains who you are as a writer or as a person.

A:  On the first day of first grade, my teacher (a lovely white haired lady with the excellent name Mrs. Costabile), handed out a diagnostic math test.

I started answering the questions – 1+2, 3-1, etc. After about a minute, though, I stood up on my chair, crumpled up the test, threw it on the floor, and shouted “What do you think I am, some kind of idiot?”

Now I don't actually remember this happening – I've only heard about it second hand. But I think it's a pretty funny – if more than a little incriminating – origin story.

Q:  If you could change one thing about theater, what would it be?

A:  Space has got to be more affordable. Rehearsal space, yes, but particularly performance space. It's hard to take risks in your writing if the costs of production are so high. I dream of a theater culture in which everybody is making work all the time – like Fringe, but always. We'd eliminate the cycle of “developmental purgatory,” and be able to take bigger, bolder risks with lower stakes.

This is the main thing we've been trying to combat with (not just) 3 New Plays – by teaming up, we've made it much more affordable for the three of us to produce our work. And by opening the space up as free performance and rehearsal space before and after our shows, we've given free space to over 60 artists who otherwise wouldn't have it. We're grateful to have them on board – it makes an instant community around our work. And they're grateful for the space to make and show their work. Everybody wins.

I think if we can all be a little more community minded in the ways we make our art, we can allow for a more vibrant, more diverse arts community. And when that happens, well, everybody wins.

Q:  Who are or were your theatrical heroes?

A:  Oh man, so many. Anne Washburn, Melissa James Gibson, Jenny Schwartz, David Greenspan, Glen Berger, Richard Foreman, Richard Maxwell, Sibyl Kempson, Kristen Kosmas, Madeline George, Annie Baker, Karen Hartman, Dan LeFranc, Jordan Harrison, Lucas Hnath, Caryl Churchill, The Debate Society, Elevator Repair Service, Rude Mechs, Mac Wellman, and of course my first playwriting teachers Deb Margolin and Donald Margulies.

I'm also always impressed by the immensity of the work being created by the artists in my cohort. The Smith + Tinker gang, The Cockpit Writers Group, the Extremely Famous Writers Group – these folks have really got it going on.

Q:  What kind of theater excites you?

A:  I'm turned on by theater that experiments with language and form. Jenny Schwartz and Melissa James Gibson do such incredible things with words – reading or seeing one of their plays makes you think you've never heard the English language before. Kristen Kosmas and Sibyl Kempson similarly have this way of turning words into concrete things – objects with sound, weight, and shape, rather than just reference.

I'm always a sucker for a play that takes you through an experience, rather than depicts that experience. Anne Carson once described that (in reference to poetry) as subjective mimesis, and I think that's totally right. You leave having felt something new, having experienced something new, instead of simply watching other people feel and experience things (which is the most boring sort of voyeurism, in my book). I'm thinking specifically of plays like THE INTERNATIONALIST or the ridiculously genius MR. BURNS that use form as their primary (and extraordinarily effective) means of communication.

I love plays that give me space and agency as an audience member, plays that don't do my thinking for me, but invite me to fill in the gaps. Be just a little confusing, so I've got something to do while I'm in the audience.

Q:  What advice do you have for playwrights just starting out?

A:  Write write write. Read read read. But also do other stuff. Be a person.

Also, ask for advice! Everybody who's doing this is doing it with the help and guidance of a whole army of great mentors, heroes, and friends. And, at least in my experience, most people are more than happy to pay it forward.

For instance, me! E-mail me – j.a.lieblich@gmail.com – I'd be happy to go out for coffee and talk about this weird and impossible thing we're all trying to do.

Q:  Plugs, please:

A:  
 
EUDAEMONIA
by Jerry Lieblich
directed by Marshall Pailet

KILLERS
by Kevin Armento
directed by Stefanie Abel Horowitz

SHOOT THE FREAK
by Jaclyn Backhaus
directed by Andrew Neisler

All shows run Sept 8-29 at the Paradise Factory (64 E 4th St., next to LaMAMA).

Tickets and more info at www.notjust3newplays.com/tickets, or find us on facebook at facebook.com/notjust3newplays

ALSO! There are so many amazing performances happening in the space all month. Stop by any night and you'll see something super cool! I promise! For instance, on September 14th my roommate is performing a kickass cabaret of folk-rock re-imaginings of musical theater songs! How can you say no!?
 
 
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Aug 28, 2013

I Interview Playwrights Part 602: Marc Spitz



Marc Spitz

Hometown: Lawrence, New York, one of the "Five Towns" - the others are Inwood, Cedarhurst, Woodmere and Hewlett. Johnny Drama stars in a show about them on Entourage, directed by Ed Burns. They are a punchline on that show and kind of a punchline in my life. The joke was on me as a kid but as I am now middle aged, I often find myself dreaming of the pizza places and record stores of my youth. I set the new play there, part of it anyway, and give a shout out to Friendlier, a real pizza place. I was in Friendlier in Woodmere when the Challenger exploded.

Current Town: Makin' Money Manhattan (I'm making no money)

Q:  Tell me about Revenge and Guilt.

A:  It's a romance. Guy meets girl. Guy sleeps with girl. Girl steals guys watch. Guy meets girl again. Girl (not a Manic Pixie Dream Girl, mind) convinces the guy to confront his demons which is in this case, a guitar teacher who deeply scarred him in 1993. As it's very, very easy to find people from the past these days, they track the now aged guy down (think the Don Ciccio scene in Godfather 2) and mete out vengeance. She has ulterior motives of course. She is not who she seems to be. Mayhem ensues. There's a lot of sex and violence and pop references, it's kind of a throwback in that case to my older plays but I could not have written this at 28. It takes a middle aged man with a little humility to pull some of this off. It also marks the first time I'm directing one of my own plays after about a dozen produced Off Off. Again, I'm old now and if not now, when. It's so personal and there are only three actors so i figured why not? I saw a Woody Allen doc. where he said if you wrote it and surround yourself with good people then why can't you direct and that hit home.

Q:  What else are you working on now?

A:  I am writing a story for the New York Times on punk film, the good ones and the bad ones, and I am finishing up a book on an aesthetic that some people call Twee and others call... Indie when they are trying not to offend people who are twee. It starts post War (Disney's feature films, Salinger, Seuss, Dean, Capote) and goes all the way up to New Girl. An epic. I am also working on not being suicidally depressed. That's a bit easier than writing a big book. They have pills now. The book will be out in the second half of 2014 from IT Books/Harper Collins. It's my eighth book. I released a memoir in February called Poseur: A Memoir of Downtown New York in the 90s, which took me three years to write and might have contributed to the above mentioned suicidal depression. I also wrote Revenge during this period.

Q:  Tell me, if you will, a story from your childhood that explains who you are as a writer or as a person.

A:  Well much of it is covered in the memoir, I mentioned above but Revenge in particular stems from a real incident. You know I never wanted to be a rock critic which is how I made and still sometimes make my living. I wanted to be a rock star. But I was unlucky when it came to teachers (yes, I blame them not my utter lack of natural talent). My piano teacher would not teach me the piano riff to "Rock the Casbah" and when I went to learn the drums I was basically told that I was uncoordinated and asked if I was "good at sports?" The implication being I was an utter physical reject-o. So there's a bit of me in Cal. I've never forgotten those lessons and in moments I wonder what could have been had I a more impatient instructor (or one who was a Clash fan). It's why there's power in this play whereas some of the recent ones I've done seem more like larks. There's painful truth in it. About regret, getting older, realizing things you will never be. And coming to accept what you are, which when you scour away the anger and regret, is most of the time, not so bad at all.

Q:  If you could change one thing about theater, what would it be?

A:   Rentals would be cheaper for young playwrights. When I began doing plays on the Lower East Side in the late 1990s, if a producer like Aaron Beall liked your play or your coat, he would give you his space and split the door with you. He would also champion you and mentor you. I think that's just about gone with this sanitized, new LES. And all the small theaters are now in Brooklyn but I am a romantic about downtown theater in Manhattan (makin no money). It's why I like the Kraine where we are now. You can smell the history there. And sometimes fish.

Q:  Who are or were your theatrical heroes?

A:  I always wanted to write Burn This. Not be Lanford Wilson per se but to have written Burn This. Burn This by Marc Spitz. I've re read it recently as I've read the Forced Entries by Jim Carroll and neither are as good as I remember but when I was young and hungry they fired me up. Also Durang. Nicky Silver. Orton. Pinter. Rabe. Kushner. Albee. Shepard obviously. I once saw him at the Washington Square Park dog run walking a large black poodle. Kushner for different reasons. I love reading him and respect his ambition but I know I can never touch him. Whereas I like pretending I have a chance at the others. Hero worship at my age is bad anyway. I want to be a hero myself. You know that piece of Christopher Street in front of the Lucille Lortel with all the stars? I think they just gave Neil LaBute one. There are a lot of blank stars left. I want one of those stars. And until I get one, I am happy to let my two basset hounds pee on them. Especially on LaBute. I will say

Q:  What kind of theater excites you?

A:  I am no fan of the avant garde. I like loud, ,violent, darkly funny plays. I tried to see a Robert Wilson play once and a bunch of stuff at PS 122 and I just shift and feel like I'm back in math class.

Q:  What advice do you have for playwrights just starting out?

A:  Go to Brooklyn I guess? Or Queens. Or Staten Island. Or stay here and fight. Take back Ludlow Street, Le Miz style.

Q:  Plugs, please:

A:  Listen to the Plugz.






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Aug 21, 2013

Now Published, Upcoming, NYTVF

My webseries, Compulsive Love got into the New York TV Festival.  The festival is Oct 21-26.  Should be fun.




Hearts Like Fists is now published by Dramatists Play Service here.  Take a look at my other published plays here.

UBU, that movement piece I wrote for Daniel Irizarry, returns to NYC, this time at Intar in Sept.



And then production 14 of Nerve opens in Akron in Sept.

Here is the original cast from the '06 production.  1 part Rockstar O'Connor, 1 part Supersexy York.



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Jul 30, 2013

I Interview Playwrights Part 601: Jay Stull



Jay Stull

Hometown: Chesapeake, Virginia

Current Town: Brooklyn, New York

Q:  Tell me about The Capables.

A:  The Capables is a play about a family buried beneath the matriarch's hoard. Her daughter enlists a reality television show to come and remove the hoard, but their agenda is less about cleaning house than about getting folks to cry on camera. It's about what we do for the people we love and how we try to soften, if not heal, their specific pain.

Q:  What else are you working on now?

A:  I'm working on the AmoraLABs for the fall and winter season with The Amoralists. AmoraLABs are semi-regular gatherings at which the ensemble reads selections from four or five plays by writers new to the company. It's less a development series than a showcase. It serves a dual purpose - one of surveying some work by writers with whom we share an aesthetic and whose work may be something we include in future seasons; alternatively it's meant for writers who are close to our aesthetic but different enough from it to give the ensemble something new with which to work. It gives the playwright an opportunity to work with our ensemble and our actors an opportunity to perform for excellent playwrights.

I'm also working on a play about psychics and 9/11, which involves me getting my palm read at as many different psychics as I can afford.

Q:  Tell me, if you will, a story from your childhood that explains who you are as a writer or as a person.

A:  When I was thirteen, I spent the summer with my parents' video camera making parodies of a Regis and Kathy Lee type variety show. My cousin Jenn, visiting from out of town, was my all-too willing co-star and on the first day of her visit I worked us for so many hours and did so many takes to get it right that Jenn's pony tail, which she had pulled tightly onto the top of her head for the sake of verisimilitude, incapacitated her with a headache the next day. I'm still apologizing. But we did get the take and it was awesome.

Q:  If you could change one thing about theater, what would it be?

A:  I still feel very new to this "club" and still, oddly, see it through rose-tinted glasses. It's tough for me to have a specific thing about theater I'd like to change since doing the work and making it at all are such liberating and soul-filling tasks aside other things like accounting, or corporate litigation. It's not that I'm blinded to its problems as much as it's that I can't believe my luck that I'm doing this instead of getting pear-shaped in an Aeron chair in midtown.

If I were to say one thing, though, I wish theater spaces in New York City were less expensive to rent.

Q:  Who are or were your theatrical heroes?

A:  I didn't grow up in the theater, or even around it so this question makes me a little self-conscious. Like, in the same way that it's very hard for me to go to Marie's Crisis and not feel like a complete failure. Still, I have a few playwrights whose works have changed what I think is possible in performance. Terrence McNally, Conor McPherson, Young Jean Lee, Jackie Sibblies Drury, Stew, and Larry Kramer are a few of my favorite theater artists so far based on their work. I'd also say that so many of my heroes are people that I make theater with, friends whose crafts are still growing and in sometimes astounding, unpredictable ways, friends who inspire awe by their dedication and development.

Q:  What kind of theater excites you?

A:  I like to be afraid, terrified, unsettled. I also like to cry; I find it transformative to be silenced by overwhelming emotion. I've only ever experienced that in the theater, though, felt grabbed by the throat, and completely inhabited by an experience that can linger and incapacitate and change a person.

Q:  What advice do you have for playwrights just starting out?

A:  Hmmm...I'm still starting out and, I'll be honest, I spend a lot of time reading this section from other interviews on this site, so the first piece of advice I have is:

Read Adam's blog.

And, if they're helpful, (and I'm not sure they will be) these are the things that I tell myself to when I'm feeling pretty pessimistic about my own art-making:

Remember neuroplasticity. Keep in mind that if your brain can change and grow (and in some cases regenerate) then the determinism of innate ability might not really apply, either. You can teach yourself a new skill, like playwriting, if you're observant, and if you practice enough, and if you're open to change.

Remember that skills (like playwriting) take many years to learn and those years are measured not in time but in pages.

Remember that the act of making something that can't sell thousands of tickets or make someone (if not yourself) rich, is itself a radical act in our society. Therefore, nearly all theater is itself radical and there is a reason for it that can't be measured in coin.

Remember that making theater is SO MUCH BETTER than doing nearly anything else, even if those other things reward you handsomely. You'll still just be daydreaming about making theater.

Commit to writing. Stop checking out other degree programs for jobs that offer you a 9 to 5 work schedule and weekends. You're an artist, not a social worker!

Remember art-making is arduous. Not every moment will be blissful. Maybe 1% of moments are blissful. But those 1% offer more bliss than doing anything else. And for others, others who aren't doing stuff they like, maybe no percent of moments are blissful. Bliss = rare.

Read things that give you big ideas. Maybe not plays. Read things other than plays. But read plays, too.

Write

Write

Write

Take an acting class.

Write

See the work of others.

Q:  Plugs, please:

A:  My play, The Capables, is in its final week of performance at the Gym at Judson in Washington Square Park: 7pm on Tuesday and Wednesday and 8pm on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday.

AmoraLAB is this Wednesday, July 31st, 7:30pm at The Counting Room in Williamsburg.



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Jul 29, 2013

600 Playwright Interviews (Alphabetical)


Sean Abley
Rob Ackerman
Liz Duffy Adams
Johnna Adams
Tony Adams
David Adjmi
Keith Josef Adkins
Nastaran Ahmadi
Derek Ahonen
Kathleen Akerley





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